I have a
comment for Bob Bowman. Nowhere in
the law does it provide an
accounting of how many records a
citizen may request. So if the mayor
Concerning the political contributions of LOUDON COUNTY mayor Arp or is it KNOX COUNTY scratch my back I will scratch yours. Just what Loudon County citizens is he looking out for or which Knoxville citizens is he taking care of. If he is in need of contributions from outside the county then maybe he should move outside of the county. It is time for LOUDON COUNTY MAYOR ARP, to start listening to the citizens and stop his foolish dictatorship.
In response to the accusation of child abuse against the Loudon County woman:
The comments on this blog have both astounded and amazed me. Have we, the human race, regressed to the point that when someone has been
accused of something we’re ready to get out the nooses and find the nearest tree?
I’ve read the same articles, watched the same television news reports, and have yet found grounds to condemn this woman to the charges
she’s been accused of. In not one of these reports have I come across a detailed account of the case and yet so many have decided she is
guilty. There are two sides to every story and I’ve only heard one. What I have found, reported by the paper, is that there are people, despite
what’s being said, who trust her with their children. Sort of makes you think, hmm?
A question has been raised on this very blog about the lack of attention this has gotten because this woman happens to be married to a police officer when another officer’s wife was hounded for a mistake (yes mistake, being human makes us all prone to those) that she made. Do you think either of these women are the only people who’ve been accused of such crimes? Do you recall seeing every single one of them splashed
across the news? Would you really call that lack of attention?
So the lynch mob has been released. It is made up of Surmises and Conjectures. And Rumor holds the noose. “Innocent until proven
guilty?” Has everyone heard of that? How about this one,
“Judge not, that ye be not judged?” 4/27/07
I have a couple of things that bug the heck out of me.
Loudon Please Step Up 4/26/07
read the Mike Ross article and say
it is about time someone started
addressing issues concerning
development. It is a known fact that
wanted you to know that I think the
Rivero quote on your front page is
right on the money and could not
have been better said. Any chance
Boy people sure want to get on here and voice over and over again that it's not in the paper about the Loudon County cops wife blah blah blah. Why don't you pick up a paper and read before you complain. Post were made on here on the 18th and 19th. Well it was in the paper long before that if you would pick up a News Sentinel on the 16th and looked you would have saw it. Not to mention it was in the News Herald a day or so later and it was on the News on TV. And as for the concerned parent's comment of you will eventually get yours. Have you not ever heard of innocent until proven guilty your opinion doesn't mean anything. It's just that an opinion everyone has one and not everyone is as quick as you to say something negative about someone like that. I was always taught if you can't say anything nice don't say anything at all. I am sure her family doesn't want you to feel sorrow for them when you go around making comments like that in the same conversation.
If you can't say nothin nice don't say nothin at all
Treat others the way you would want to be treated 4/23/07
With the reversal in the decision to charge Tony Aikens with extortion will there also be some action taken in the Billy Hall case? The trial ended in a hung jury and then it just went away, what's wrong with this picture? It seems if you work for the Loudon County Sheriff Department then you are above the law.
Disappointed in the legal system
Lenoir City Tennessee 4/23/07
This will be a little long, but relevant at this time.
Anybody want to bet on the outcome of another Aikens trial? Let's revisit. In 2002 a Starsky and Hutch type officer is prowling the interstate looking for "bad guys" to take off the street. A hapless motorist had the misfortune of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Eddie Witt of Hamilton County passing through our fair county looked suspicious and was stopped. Mr. Witt had about 20gs in his trunk a gun and a knife and a suspended licenses. He had to be a drug dealer right? Wrong. Ultimately two stories of the event emerge. Akins says Witt voluntarily donated nearly 10gs of his money out of the goodness of his heart to the drug fund. Witt says he was threatened with loosing all his money and his car if he didn't donate the 10gs to the drug fund. Who's telling the truth? Should we believe Witt would give away nearly 10gs over three little misdemeanor charges? Strangely enough when Witt shows up with a lawyer to get his money back, the county agrees to give it back plus pay 5gs to Witt's lawyer. Why on earth would the county give back the money and pay his lawyer if everything was on the up and up? Hummm!
By all accounts, the money taken/received from Mr. Witt was properly turned over to the county and nobody put it in their pockets. Well, one deputy did remove an old $500 bill from Witt's money to take home with him but he had to return that too. Akins takes/receives the money. Money is deposited in the drug fund. Checks are written from the drug fund to Aikens and other "deserving" officers. Let see? Who profited from the money?
Two different Loudon County Grand Juries, 24 different people, found enough evidence to indict Mr. Aikens twice, yet both times the Judge through out the case on a technicality. Aikins claims politics by former DA, Scott Mccluen, was the driving force behind the indictments. However according to Witt's attorney, Mccluen would not take the charges to the grand jury so Witt and his lawyer took the charges to the grand jury themselves. Mccluen refuses to handle the case and a special prosecutor is appointed by the state. Now apparently from his political grave, Mccluen has managed to sway the states appeals court to over turn the dismissal.
Van Shaver, would you include the
attached news articles with this
Driver says: 'I was flat extorted'
Man at center of drug-fund
controversy wants arresting officers
taken off force
read your story on Tony Aikens. I
don't know the whole story, and
everyone is supposed to be innocent
until proven guilty. My problem is
with the legal system that would go
to so much trouble to render this
opinion, then just have it dismissed
on another technicality. Will this
be another case of the statute of
limitations running out, or will it
be more of that "good ole boy"
system"? Is this a case of the legal
system purposely dragging its feet,
or do the statute of limitations
need to be lengthened to accommodate
the slowness of rendering an
opinion? Or am I missing the
point entirely and there is some
other factor that would allow
So........now the Eastern District Court of Criminal Appeals has agreed with former DAG McCluen, and with the State Attorney General, that good-ole-boy Judge Buddy Scott "erred" when he came out of retirement to dismiss Aikens' extortion indictments. (It was the state AG that argued the appeal.)
They don't have McCluen to blame this time. So who do you suppose will be the scapegoat?
Do you suppose we'll be hearing soon about a "vast anti-Aikens conspiracy"?
David Divelbiss 4/20/07
I don't understand, why such a hush hush about the Loudon County Officers wife arrested for child abuse??? We dogged April Bowen time after time for her crime but nothing about Misty Cosner? If your going to talk about someone that stole money and not someone that has done a awful thing to a small child, I think we have issues. This is so serious!! Yea and why wasn't it in the paper? MMMMmmm!!!! This is so crazy, I don't know the details on the case but I feel sorry for the family of this child and the terrified child. No child deserves this kind of treatment! I don't care what the situation was. In my opinion anyone that hurts a child needs to be behind bars for a long time but I'm sure she will get off just as easy as April did because she is married to a Loudon County Officer. I feel sorrow for her family but not sorry for her, she knew what she was doing! My prayers go out to the family or families of this child or children and hope they will get the help they need in a situation like this. Always remember you will get away with the bad things your doing for awhile but eventually you will get yours!
Very Concerned Parent...4/19/07
What right have you to say "if you had a job for 30 years no one would run you off"? You don't know what you would do if you were Mrs. Cook's shoes. From what I understand her health has not been good. Sometimes your health will not allow you to fight. The real problem is NO one should feel like they have to fight.
You said "Maybe there's something to the rumors going around about illegal phone taps, overpaid outside contracts & all the uncollected fines & a bit of abuse of office?
RUMORS are rumors... Illegal phone taps, That would be the police department you are talking about? Or is that a Rumor?
About over paid outside contracts. Even you said that the City Council votes on contracts.
I believe Van Shaver proved that the report about the uncollected fines, was not a true report. I know for a fact that Debbie Cook has never abuse the office not even a little bit. She gave and gave more then she ever got.
It's time to put RUMORS to rest. JUST FACTS and TRUTH.
So stop trying to put rumors in people's minds.
In response to the question "Why is it that there is NO mention of the Loudon County Deputy's wife getting arrested for child abuse in the News Herald? Because our children are not a priority in this county. They are not developers, animals, or prisoners. If you only knew.
Where I worked if you weren't at work you get no pay, and if you were seen doing other things rather than home sick, you are terminated immediately, no questions asked. So we the taxpayers of Loudon County are Mr. Arp's employer so therefore he should be terminated immediately with no questions asked. Come on tax payers it is time to stand up and do something.
Joanne G. 4/17/07
I really don't need to research Lenoir City politics, I know more than I want to already. A great deal of it I do not appreciate. I will change what I can by voting and trying to enlighten others to what I know. You need to know that Judge Vann cannot chose Maryville Collections or appoint his "cronies". City Council has to approve outside contracts. Why hire Maggie Hunt & not outside? You have an immediately available, knowlegable clerk who doesn't have to learn a job she already knows. DUH!?! Even City Council sees that. Just because there's an opening- no law says that you can't promote from within & have to take outside applications. Maybe you need to find out what's going on. If I worked at a job for almost 30 years-NOBODY- would run me off until I was ready to go! Maybe there's something to the rumors going around about illegal phone taps, overpaid outside contracts & all the uncollected fines & a bit of abuse of office????
Why is it that there is NO mention of the Loudon County Deputy's wife getting arrested for child abuse in the News Herald?
Just Wondering? Lenoir City 4/17/07
Aikens, Ardin, Hall , Bowan, Davis, Wilson & Wilson now Cosner? Attorney T. Scott Jones has stumbled into a gold mine defending sheriff dept. employees and their spouses.
Another one of them. 4/16/07
To Nora, Loudon Convenience Center Customer 4/10/07,
A few days ago I was at the Home Depot in LC. Who do you suppose I saw doing a little shopping? Our honest county mayor, Doyle Arp. Collar up high, hat down low. Why would he be at the Home Depot in the morning, on a week day instead of being at work where we are paying him to be. How big of a thief is Doyle Arp. Apparently he has no problem with taking our money and not doing any work for it. That in my opinion is a thief. Maybe we should set up an Arp watch network to see where the man is while he is taking our money. Is there no way to get rid of him?
To: Mary 4/12/07
<<<Now let us wait and see if Judge Vann hires his buds for the collection
job or bids it out, as he should.>>>
You didn't have to "wait-and-see" for very long. Here's the Knoxville News-Sentinel story:
<<<In addition, the city has scheduled a meeting with a private collection company, Maryville Collection Services, to see what other efforts could be made to collect the money.>>>
No competitive bidding on this one. If they did that, Terry Vann's buddies at Maryville Collection Services might not get the business (Some other collection service might bid to do it for a lower commission/percentage. They don't want to know about it.
Now.........WHY doesn't this man insist on competitive bidding?:
Dave Divelbiss 4/15/07
have an ethics commission. Are the
citizens not supposed to make up a
portion of this committee? Are we
not letting the fox guard the hen
house here? How can the mayor and
several others on that commission
vote on the ethics of another when
they have no idea what the word
In response to: Nora, Loudon Convenience Center Customer 4/10/07
Speaking of Mayor Arp, You asked:
<<<How is it he is so sick he can't work but four hours a day, but he is healthy enough to be hauling and dumping a truck load of scrap lumber.>>>
You might note that he generally gets sick when he has a court date approaching (because he's broken the law).
Dave Divelbiss 4/15/07
"Right on Mary". Debbie Cook should have never been treated the way she was. But even if that position had been posted the mayor would have put who they would have wanted in anyway. The only time the people have a say in what goes on in our government is election day..
PLEASE REMEMBER TO VOTE.
Don't let them put the City Recorders job as a appointed position. We don't have a lot to do with the daily works at City Hall but we do on election day. Can we all pull together and get Debbie Cook to run for Mayor? Lets not let a good and honest person like herself get away. We need her back. Our City is a wonderful place to live. LETS KEEP it that way.
Debbie, if you read this site. I hope you know how you will be missed by a lot of us. You did your job and worked hard for us the people. You have put employee's before yourself many times. The ones that didn't stand behind you at the time you needed them should be a shame. You know who you are. I'll never forget seeing you give a person on the side of the road money years ago. You gave and gave. It's just a real shame how some people forget. Hopefully on election day All will remember.
Debbie, have a wonderful summer. Start this Fall and get ready to run for Mayor. We need you back PLEASE. The day of election we will have that party .
George, Lenoir City, TN 4/14/07
To Watching you 4/13/07,
The Adequate Facilities Tax was passed after I left office. I did not have the pleasure to actually vote for it's passage. I obtained my building permit in December. The newly adopted Adequate Facilities Tax did not take effect till January, 1of 07. I was not required to pay the tax in December.
Nice try anyway.
Van Shaver 4/14/07
I have been sitting here reading a lot of blogs, learning a lot about the county I have come to live in. Not being originally from this state, I have learned a lot about the difference in how people are from one area of the United States to another. And, how times change! I grew up in the age of "You do as I say, not as I do!" And, God forbid, you not have that fear of your parents. You might have fear, but along with that comes love and respect. Kids now a days don't have a clue. That's including my own! Sometimes I'd like to give them a swift boot in the rear-end! Where would that get me!?!
So, what I have to say about Loudon County! These kids don't have enough entertainment! Yea, Brookshire made promises to kids about a building a skate park when he became Mayor. That skate park is nothing but complete horror! So much trouble lurks there!
We encourage our kids to spread their horizons, but they are also limited on doing that at times. Yea, I've done the camping thing, the hiking, the football, all the sports, but when we taught our kids to broaden their interests, it goes beyond these things. They need more...where is our city pool, where is our local movie theater, where is our local roller skating rink?
One reason why I have such a huge desire for some of these things is that I know for a fact that underage consumption of alcohol is a major issue here in Loudon County. I know this because my child has been in trouble for it. He will have this hanging over his head for life now that he is of legal age, but not of legal drinking age. Yes, he is at fault for his actions. But, he also was able to receive this alcohol and that was from a parent that wants to be the friend to her kids and their friends. An adult that goes on a drunken rampage the morning after her son is arrested for underage consumption. An adult that intentionally drove her vehicle into a hard working mans vehicle. An adult that assaults another minor she contributed to. An adult that sits in a jail cell for 13 days and should be home making dinner for her children. Not only does this county need more entertainment for the kids, but to rid the role models that contribute to illegal acts.
Ashamed of my sons acts, but P.O'd at irresponsible adults 4/14/07
I bet you wont post this one. Mr. Van Shaver is building a new house supposedly for his son in Hardin Estates. I was told that he didn't pay the adequate facilities tax that he voted for when he was a commissioner. The question is if Mr. Van Shaver thought the tax was such a good idea for everybody else, why didn't he have to pay it himself?
Watching you 4/13/07
like to comment on your article
about LCUB's sewer problems. Granted
I do not know much about sewers, but
it seems to me that it would have
been LCUBs responsibility, just like
any other business, to be putting
money back into that business to
keep things running as they should.
Do they not have a responsibility to
their ratepayers to provide the best
service available, just as any other
business would? From the looks
of the audit it appears to me that
instead of taking care of their
customers, as they should have, they
have been using money that should
have gone to upkeep of their system,
in a power war for private gain.
Mary 4/11/07 asks "Does it surprise anyone that Maggie Hunt got the job of City Recorder?"
My answer is-no it doesn't.....because Maggie Hunt is a real asset to Lenoir City. She has worked in the Recorder/treasurer's office for quite a while, she's totally capable-knows the job & the people. She always open to listen to the public, City Department heads, etc.-plus she actually WORKS in that office!!! There is a good staff in place & I'm sure she will utilize the assets available to her to collect (tax dollars & OVERDUE FINES & COSTS). The only thing that amazes me is the amount of time COMPUTER GRIPERS have to COMPLAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
surprise anyone that Maggie Hunt
gets Debbie Cooks position? I
just wonder if Mr. Vann is going to
break the law by hiring some of his
As if we needed any more evidence than we already have. Saturday our illustrious Mayor and his wife were at the Loudon Convenience Center in his red Chevrolet pickup, yea I saw you, dumping a truck load of construction material in the compactor. I was personally not allowed to dump three 2x4s. Now why is it that he gets special privileges and can dump his construction trash, 2x4s and sheetrock ETC., and the rest of us are told we have to take ours to the landfill and pay to dump. This man makes 75k per year and he wants the tax payers to pay for his demolition disposal? This is just one more example of what contempt he has for the citizens of Loudon County. We've been paying his bills for a quarter century. Has he no shame? How is it he is so sick he can't work but four hours a day, but he is healthy enough to be hauling and dumping a truck load of scrap lumber. Is he lying about his health just to get out of going to work? I guess that is why he fired the last convenience center manager because he wouldn't let him break the rules just because he was the big shot mayor. You Mr. Arp are a disgrace to this county. What a joke.
Nora, Loudon Convenience Center Customer 4/10/07
To: One of them 3/30/07
You wrote the following:
<<<The police/sheriffs departments are just like any other employer in this nation...they have some good employees, some great employees and unfortunately some bad employees. but never the less each one of them will.................>>>
I know the term "good-ole-boy network" sounds redundant. BUT:
As for these departments being "just like any other employer....", how many employers can you show me that have as many employees as they have, and manage to stay staffed without ever advertising any job vacancies?
I read pretty much every issue of the News Herald. I can't seem to recall any job opening being advertised by any Loudon County government agency!
For that matter, I cannot recall any Lenoir City job openings being advertised either.
(Heh, heh, heh! Let's get this blog going!)
Where do y'all suppose they find their employees?
Who does Doyle Arp think he is?
He must be crazy or the biggest crook the county has ever seen.
My guess would be BOTH apply here...
Why are the commissioners putting up with his stupidity and illegal actions?
Blackmail? Politics? Paybacks? Who cares what the reason is? The fact that they have given him the right to do as he pleases tells me that we need to elect a new commission who know how to say NO, and will vote for what is best for the taxpayers instead of what is best for their political career or Doyle Arp.
I think everybody would be a lot better off if he was never in the office.
Amen brother- and a lot cheaper on the pocketbook as well. Don't you wonder why with the new facilities tax, all the new taxes coming from development AND the property tax last year, they are calling for a new sales tax next election? My guess is that the officials are investing in private development for their own personal gain and using our tax money to do it.
He is a complete embarrassment to the whole county.
I'm in total agreement
How much longer must we tolerate him?
A. until someone gets the nerve to tell where the bodies are buried
B. the county audit spawns an investigation
c. Someone with money gets the nerve to oust his sorry behind
D. He does something so big it cannot be covered up
E. We all go hungry
F. He drops dead
Do not count on the polls doing the job. He is making too many people too much money to loose.
Fed up in LC
Who does Doyle Arp think he is? He must be crazy or the biggest crook the county has ever seen. Why are the commissioners putting up with his stupidity and illegal actions? Those videos show just what kind of idiot he really is. Does he really talk like that or is he just trying to sound like an uneducated bumpkin? I think everybody would be a lot better off if he was never in the office. He is a complete embarrassment to the whole county. How much longer must we tolerate him?
Embarrassed by our mayor 4/4/07
Divelbiss said: "I suspect Arp is
annoyed that Van has the most viewed
website in the county. But I submit
that as long as it remains relevant
In response to Mr Divelbiss,
In no way am I defending anyone who commits a crime and in no way should a badge shield a person from proper judicial procedures. I am only saying for those who are honest and truly do there jobs to the best of there ability deserve a bit more respect and not be categorized because of the deeds of past, present or future comrades.
One of them
I know this blog is going to make some people angry but I've just got to share my opinion. Let me first say that I have the greatest respect for honest, hard working law enforcement officers, teachers and school administrators. Over the last few years however it seems that this group of individuals have self elevated themselves to almost hero status. Policemen and educators are certainly very important members of our society needed to fulfill the functions they were hired to do. However none of them were drafted or forced to take the jobs they perform. In fact, locally, in many cases, they probably had to have connections to obtain their jobs.
Most every job has it's down side, and inherent dangers. Police officers are paid to respond to calls. Teachers are paid to teach. They aren't doing it for free. They knew the pay scales when they took the jobs and if they are dissatisfied with the work or the pay they should seek other employment where they would be happier. It would be interesting to see how many applications would be submitted if the sheriff's dept. or the board of education ever advertised position openings.
None of us are irreplaceable. There were policemen and educators long before we got here and there will be more after we are gone. I guess I'm trying to say, it's time to step back and get some perspective. All members of all professions are important to our community and our society. Each is doing their jobs on a daily basis. Some just complain more than others.
"Judicial Diversion" permits disposition of misdemeanors and certain felonies to include probation with the possibility of dismissal and expungment if the defendant successfully complies with the terms of probation.
This in effect = No jail time...........
More info- LC 4/02/07
Dear Van-Blog Land,
In response to "One of Them." I have respect for officers that deserve respect. I am glad that "some" of them are honest and do the job they do so that I don't have to. However, lets remember something. Were officers under a draft when they joined their profession? NO! If an officer complains about being in danger, or having to take wild or crazy calls, I guess its time for a career change. Its kind of like when liberals whine and complain about soldiers being at war. Guess all those soldiers didn't know that they might have to do their job which might involve WAR when they voluntarily signed up! If you took a job as a fishing boat crewman, would you be shocked if you were asked to do some fishing? People join law enforcement jobs for several reasons, and one of them would be getting into "stuff" as they say. Please don't come to the public looking for pity because you are in law enforcement. You took the job because you wanted it, and you continue to stay there, so it must not be that bad.
I would love to see some of their IQ tests. Mr. "One of Them", it's as simple as this, our Sheriff does not run his dept. I would hope he would be smart enough to at least put the blame off on his great assistant, Aikens, but there is obviously a reason he can't do this. Wonder why? It is the Sheriffs fault that this blog reads the way it does. If he would take care of the problems, instead of trying to take care of his buddies, people wouldn't feel the way they do. It's a shame that there is so much distaste against the department but it is their own fault. I wish the county commission would recognize there are so many problems there and start taking more of a day to day interest in the dept. How about one big drug and alcohol test of all employees to start!
Just Smiling! 4/02/07
Mayor Arp says this about Van's website:
<<"he is not the Loudon County official web site like he claims on his thang.">>
I've read Van's "thang" many times, and I've never seen him claim such a thing. But I think I know what the problem is.
I suspect Arp is annoyed that Van has the most viewed website in the county.
But I submit that as long as it remains relevant and unafraid to confront the corruption of Loudon County politicos, Arp will not be able to change that - even if the county sets up a dozen websites.
Dave Divelbiss 4/01/07